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CrazyBoy
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DAMNNNNN!!!!

Post by CrazyBoy »

Hello again forum friends. I want your impressions on a short video I saw yesterday. Wonder if some of you will be shocked, eventhough this is quite familiar to XMA. so here's the link:

http://www.netvideo.ro/view.php?cat=23&id=182

DanBor
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Post by DanBor »

Hello, I saw that video - that girl has amazing active flexibility, but that's only for show - no use in the MA (contact disciplines). I' ve never been big fan of such displays.
Don't get me wrong - it is cool. It might inspire some younger people to train.

CrazyBoy
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Post by CrazyBoy »

Yeah, it's very impressive, that's for sure. I just wanted your impression on that video.

Tim...
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Post by Tim... »

Nice dance. I wonder if she's any good at martial arts...

Oh... I see... That's a martial arts competition. How tragic. :twisted:

But seriously. I don't call that sort of thing martial arts, but each to their own.

There are loads of examples of gymnastic-martial-arts on www.youtube.com. Just type in "martial arts" in the search and you'll get loads of this stuff.

Try seaching for "breakdancing" also. They do a lot of the same aerials...

Cheers

Tim...

CrazyBoy
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Post by CrazyBoy »

Don't get me wrong Tim. I admire her high level of flexibility, and that's all. You are very right to compare her "martial arts exhibiton" to a dance, because this is what it is. What she's doing has nothing to do with real contact martial arts.

douroucouli
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Post by douroucouli »

Her name is Chloe Bruce if anyone is interested. She certainly has über-flexibility but she sure is lacking power. I've seen many of her performances and I cringe whenever I see them. Her form is garbage and she only does well because of her flexibility. It doesn't seem as though she has learned much humility in her "martial arts" if you read her bio on her website, it's like reading an advertisement. Sad.

CrazyBoy
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Post by CrazyBoy »

Wow, how modest of her :( She's more of a show-off than a true martial artist. Sorry to see that kind of self-advertising.

Tim...
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Post by Tim... »

Fair play to the girl, she's obviously very driven. I'm sure if she keeps working she'll be in one million and one music and martial arts videos.

Perhaps I'm being a bit of a purist about the whole martial arts thing...

Cheers

Tim...

Rubberduck70
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Post by Rubberduck70 »

Ok, looks nice and flexible, but what are the supposed combat applications of those moves? Or are the "martial arts" now only supposed to be no-contact folkdance. :roll:

CrazyBoy
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Post by CrazyBoy »

I also wonder if those moves have any application, but nevertheless it looks nice. Surely that's a display of XMA, just impressive gymnastics .

bruce123
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Post by bruce123 »

she has been around for a while. She calls herself a martial artist but she all about show and the main focus of her display is to show that she is extremeley flexible. She is more like a gymnast dancer than a martial artist. Also she does her display to dance music. I'm not a fan of these quasi-martial artists they are all about what looks good with no consideration for application. Many would injure themselves if they tried techniques for real.

To call themselves martial artists is wrong. They are dancers.

Tim...
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Post by Tim... »

I'm going to contradict my previous posts now, but that's just me. I'm cursed with the ability to see both sides of any situation... :)

I guess there are a couple of things to consider here.

This sort of stuff is obviously just for show and has limited-to-no application. This in itself doesn't prevent it from being martial arts. I practice head kicks and spinning kicks. I would never try to do either in a fight. Does practicing stuff I would never use in a real fight stop me from being a martial artist?

If so, there are plenty of people out there who are just doing dancing. :)

Also, this is one aspect of what this woman does. Perhaps she does lots of "serious" training in addition to this wacky stuff. If so, then she's for real. If not, then it's probably dancing. :)

By the way, you might want to watch this:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vOTwg_YXYy0

This guy is called Bob Spour (ex-SAS, Muay Tai Coach and big on Self-Protection). I've had the pleasure of meeting him a few times. The reason I put the link is that it is the polar opposite of the first video. I know which one of these two would scare me! :)

Cheers

Tim...

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Post by Tim... »

Removing duplicate post :(

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Post by Tim... »

Removing duplicate post :(

douroucouli
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Post by douroucouli »

It's wandering off of the flexibility topic but I feel the need to speak up. What people are doing in XMA, etc., is what's considered "martial sports" as they are based on an original martial system/art, borrow techniques from those systems, and throw in some gymnastics or acrobatics. Yes, the people who get to the highest level of competition in these sports are physically talented and spend countless hours working on their routines but nonetheless they are more athletes than martial artists. I give them credit for how well they do what they do (and I enjoy watching SOME of them, Steve Terada is nucking futs) but the whole martial sport scene makes me laugh. It's purely entertainment, no real-world application at all.

(And no traditional system would ever use such hideous uniforms/clothing as you will find in the sport schools; they turn my stomach)

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