Flexibility and leg swings

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Moe
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Flexibility and leg swings

Post by Moe »

Hey guys i have a questions regarding dynamic stretching and if it influences leg swings from the outside to the inside and from the inside to the outside. Will dynamic stretching make these legs swings easier to do?

Mr. Kurz in his book shows one stretch that involves leg swings from the outside to the inside as a dynamic stretch but I am not sure if it has to be done seperatley to leg raises to the front, back and side or that these stretches are enough.
"Believe nothing that you hear, and half what you see." -Bruce Lee

dragon
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Post by dragon »

You mean like inside/outside cresent kicks?
If you feel you need additional work in that area then do it.You could either add them asdynamic stretches or put them into the general warmup as kicking practice after dynamic stretches.

Dragon.

Moe
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Post by Moe »

What I mean is sorta like this in the picture


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From this position you move the leg away from the body. In this case outside would be anticlockwise and inside would be clockwise.

I can do both and my right leg is superior, with my left leg i feel that i need to raise my heel and thus that something is on the way.
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CrazyBoy
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Post by CrazyBoy »

You mean inner and outer roundhouse kicks (Uchi & Soto Mwashi keage)? These kicks can be practiced as dynamic stretches, no?

wynnema
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Post by wynnema »

CrazyBoy wrote:You mean inner and outer roundhouse kicks (Uchi & Soto Mwashi keage)? These kicks can be practiced as dynamic stretches, no?
they are certainly not roundhouse kicks he is referring to. As Dragon said these are crescent kicks. Outer crescent, the leg comes up and moves away from the body, inner crescent the leg goes up and moves towards the body.

CrazyBoy
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Post by CrazyBoy »

Sorry, but that's how I knew them!

dragon
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Post by dragon »

Usually,a cresent kick involves throwing a kick in a large oval whilst still facing your target,a round house kick usually has you turning your hip towards your target so the end position looks likethis:-

http://www.stadion.com/column_stretch7.html

Not all styles call it a round house kick though.The style of Kung Fu i practice doesn't.

Dragon.

Moe
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Post by Moe »

As for the leg raises to the side, when I raise my left leg my right leg (supporting leg) tends to turn away from the target, now in the book Mr. Kurz has his foot pointing straight ahead, is it ok for the foot to turn away just like when you are actually kicking? This doesn't happen when I raise my right leg.
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mat
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Post by mat »

Moe wrote:As for the leg raises to the side, when I raise my left leg my right leg (supporting leg) tends to turn away from the target, now in the book Mr. Kurz has his foot pointing straight ahead, is it ok for the foot to turn away just like when you are actually kicking? This doesn't happen when I raise my right leg.
If you tilt your hips forward, as you do in the side split with toes pointing forward, you should be able to do leg raises with toes pointing forwards. There's quite a lot of Kurz material on tilting the pelvis while performing splits and leg raises.

There can be two ways of doing leg raises to the side. The way I think of it is that one way is the dynamic equivalent of a martial arts front split (back leg = kicking leg, standing leg foot turned away) and the other is the dynamic equivalent of a side split.

My students tend to favour the former, although I encourage them to practise both.

Mat

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Post by CrazyBoy »

please excuse me Dragon for bad choosing of words: I used the term "roundhouse" because that came in mind. i know the difference between them but I didn't knew the term. I use those kicks in my warm-up, sometimes.

dragon
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Post by dragon »

Like i say,different styles use different names.
The style i practice calls a roundhouse kick a turning kick.
And we don't have a cresent kick in the syllabus but we do have a "half" cresent kick(start the cresent kick motion until you reach the highest point,then retrace the leg back down through it's originalpath).This is called a sickle kick.

Dragon.

wynnema
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Post by wynnema »

dragon wrote:Like i say,different styles use different names.
The style i practice calls a roundhouse kick a turning kick.
And we don't have a cresent kick in the syllabus but we do have a "half" cresent kick(start the cresent kick motion until you reach the highest point,then retrace the leg back down through it's originalpath).This is called a sickle kick.

Dragon.
I practice WTF TKD in the UK, we call it a turning kick. I think roundhouse is an American terminology but it is used more often than turning kick so I tend to refer to it as the same.

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Post by mat »

wynnema wrote:I practice WTF TKD in the UK, we call it a turning kick. I think roundhouse is an American terminology but it is used more often than turning kick so I tend to refer to it as the same.
I've never heard of a style of TKD called "What The F..." :D

Sorry, couldn't resist. Seriously though - whats WTF?

Mat

dragon
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Post by dragon »

What the f*** Tae Kwon Do .What a style that would be... :)

I'm going to guess it's the World Tae Kwon Do Federation?
Wynnema?

Dragon.

wynnema
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Post by wynnema »

dragon wrote:What the f*** Tae Kwon Do .What a style that would be... :)

I'm going to guess it's the World Tae Kwon Do Federation?
Wynnema?

Dragon.
no you're right it is what the f*** TKD :lol:

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