jumping stretch

backinjured · Post by **backinjured** » Nov 11, 2005 12:53

I just wanted to know if this would be a good dynamic stretch.
Here's a pic:

http://www.blissweb.com/sets/photos/ass ... mp_med.jpg

but instead of jumping like in this picture, I'd use both arms (for instance, on a desk) to lift me so that I can control lot better the movement.

Tanx

dragon · Post by **dragon** » Nov 12, 2005 05:43

I think i remember a dancer asking about dynamic stretches in one of the Q&A emails.
I seem to remember Mr.K saying the same kind of stretch can be done hanging from a chin ups bar.

Dragon.

CrazyBoy · Post by **CrazyBoy** » Nov 12, 2005 08:41

But how does this kind of stretching improve your flexibility? Where can it be used and by whom?

backinjured · Post by **backinjured** » Nov 12, 2005 10:12

in Contemporary Wu Shu those kinds of jumps are often performed

and it would be just another way of reaching the flexibility for front split

CrazyBoy · Post by **CrazyBoy** » Nov 12, 2005 16:17

Aaaaaaaaaa! Now I know! Ok, thanx!

wynnema · Post by **wynnema** » Nov 14, 2005 13:05

backinjured wrote:in Contemporary Wu Shu those kinds of jumps are often performed

and it would be just another way of reaching the flexibility for front split

you mean side splits

backinjured · Post by **backinjured** » Nov 14, 2005 16:50

yeah maybe I'm always mixing the two names

CrazyBoy · Post by **CrazyBoy** » Nov 15, 2005 09:21

Wouldn't this be a balistic stretch? For me it seems, that you cannot control the stretch. Maybe I am wrong, but can anyone enlighten me!

backinjured · Post by **backinjured** » Nov 17, 2005 08:38

If you use a support (I used a corner of a desk) then you can jump really slowly, you can even stay above the ground for minutes, just keep holding yourself in the air with your arms. This way your legs movements are controlled perfectly. And ballistic involve bouncing in a stretch which is not what I'm talking about here, it's Dynamic Stretching.

wynnema · Post by **wynnema** » Nov 17, 2005 08:41

CrazyBoy wrote:Wouldn't this be a balistic stretch? For me it seems, that you cannot control the stretch. Maybe I am wrong, but can anyone enlighten me!

have you never seem gynamsts on TV.

dragon · Post by **dragon** » Nov 17, 2005 12:11

backinjured wrote:If you use a support (I used a corner of a desk) then you can jump really slowly, you can even stay above the ground for minutes, just keep holding yourself in the air with your arms. This way your legs movements are controlled perfectly. And ballistic involve bouncing in a stretch which is not what I'm talking about here, it's Dynamic Stretching.

If you wanted to perform a "double stretch" i would imagine it would be better hanging from a chin ups bar rather than leaning on a table.
As you are supporting yourself on your arms it would be harder to relax to perform the dynamic stretch.

The stretch performed this way could start to turn into an active stretch.

Plus,another issue is body position.The guy in the pic has his legs forwards(like a seated groin stretch),not out to the sides(like a side split).when supporting yourself on a table i would imagine it's quite probable you'd kick what you're leaning on.

Dragon.

backinjured · Post by **backinjured** » Nov 18, 2005 07:48

Yeah but I don't have any chin up bar

CrazyBoy · Post by **CrazyBoy** » Nov 18, 2005 07:52

Thanks and please excuse my replies! I now understand the stretch and its benefits. But I want to ask you, when can an athelete use it? When he has achieved the side split or before to achieve it?
To Wynnema: yes, I've seen gymnasts at TV. Don't forget I am romanian and the romanian gymnasts are still the best: Catalina Ponor, Marian Dragulescu (these are a few names and the athletes which I worship in flexibility)

dragon · Post by **dragon** » Nov 18, 2005 07:58

If you can't suspend yourself,just be careful fatigue doesn't set in whilst you're doing it your way.This would defeat the object of dynamic stretches.
CrazyBoy-You can perform this stretch whether you've achieved full splits or not.You balance may be off if you can't raise your legs as high though(refering to the actual picture here,not the chin ups bar/table stretch).
If your art doesn't require you to perform such a movement though(in sets/forms/katas) then conventional dynamic stretches will suffice.

Dragon.

CrazyBoy · Post by **CrazyBoy** » Nov 19, 2005 07:40

Thanks Dragon! No, the karate I practice doesn't require this kind of stretching.