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beyond stretching?

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Hi
has anyone read this book? It is written by tsatsouline, but do you think it can have useful information?

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Its not a bad book, but it covers a lot of the same info as Kurz book. not much new info. He covers dynamic, isometric and passive stretching.

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I've got most of the Pavel Tsatsouline material.A lot of it goes into greater detail and there seem to be disagreements between Kurz/Tsatsouline's theories.It's something you'll have to try to see which works best for you.

The only problem i have with the Pavel books/dvd's is that you need to get all of them for all the info he provides(you can get general info from 1 but for more detail you need more).It would be better if he wrote 1 big book.They are a little more expensive to.I think they are worth the money though.

Dragon

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dragon wrote:I've got most of the Pavel Tsatsouline material.A lot of it goes into greater detail and there seem to be disagreements between Kurz/Tsatsouline's theories.It's something you'll have to try to see which works best for you.

The only problem i have with the Pavel books/dvd's is that you need to get all of them for all the info he provides(you can get general info from 1 but for more detail you need more).It would be better if he wrote 1 big book.They are a little more expensive to.I think they are worth the money though.

Dragon
Hi Dragon:

I am unfamiliar with Pavel's books (I've heard of them, of course). You point out that there is some disagreement between Kurz and Pavel. One thing I've always appreciated about Kurz's books is that the ideas seem to have a basis in scientific research. I like the way Kurz "puts himself in the background" of his books. Does Pavel do the same thing with his books? To tell you the truth, I've always been put off by Pavel's books because the cover always gives me the impression that the book is just going to be him spouting off on his opinions. I'd like to know if I've judged his books unfairly.

I'm just curious. I'm not planning on buying his books; I just want to make sure I'm not being unfair towards him.

Thanks,
Mark

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Post by dragon »

Hi,
A lot of people don't like the Pavel material because:-1.He does market/endorse his products alot,and:-2.He writes from a sterio typical russian point of view(i personally think this is meant to be tongue in cheek though.Refering to his readers as commrade and the capitalist west).

If you see through that though you will find his techniques are also based on scientific research.Like i said,there are disagreement between Kurz/Tsatsoulines theories(both of which say there is scientific evidence to back it up).
An example of this is that Kurz says active flexibility training does not benefit a martial artist,Tsatsouline quotes research to suggest that having an imbalance between active and passive flexibility can lead to injury.
He uses an example of a russian martial artist that can perform full side split,grab a chin ups bar above him and pull himself up off the ground keeping his legs in the splits position(an example of equal active and passive flexibility).There are other examples of subtle differences of opinion.

Not being a scientist myself,i will listen to any good arguement and give it enough time to see if it works for myself.The Pavel material just gives me a different perspective and helped me overcome a plateau in my training with more variety.

Dragon

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