weight in stretched position vs isometrics

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wynnema
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weight in stretched position vs isometrics

Post by wynnema »

i am trying to break through a plateau with the side split, so following Kurz advice that you should put more weight on a muscle - I have started to hold dumbells in the side splits. I've noticed however that these really work the adductors, more so than isometrics. I never got DOMS from isometrics but 36 hrs after trying this I could really feel the adductors had been worked.

I'm wondering if I should drop the isometrics for a while and carry on with this. I stretch almost to maximum then pick the dumbells up for 30 secs and hold. I do about 5 sets of this.

anyone else had success with this.

dragon
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Post by dragon »

I've used that method before.
It automatically becomes an isometric stretch as you have to tense in order to support the weight.

Dragon.

DanBor
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Post by DanBor »

1.What is DOMS?
2. I used this method aprox. 1.5 year ago when I first heard for isometric stretching. I used only isometrics for my strenght rutine so I soon hit the plateau. Then I used dumbells ( as I can remember). In a few weeks there really were improvements, but I remember to use contractions even when holding dumbells (30 sec contraction). I quit after 1 month or so and now I have to do all over again. But that worked.

wynnema
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Post by wynnema »

so is it more or less effective than isometrics as I prefer this method. Also if I do isometrics after weight training then sometimes I am too tired to build up enough tension to see gains. This was I dont have to tense as the weight causes the muscle to fatigue.



DOMS - delayed onset muscle soreness. when you work a muscle hard enough you make microscopic tears in the muscle fibres and they grow back stronger - hence when you lift heavy weights you get bigger. this process causes the soreness. lactic acid build up also adds.

DanBor
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Post by DanBor »

Thanks, I understand what is muscle soreness I just didn't know that's DOMS.

I can only say from my experience: best method is isometrics with weights, but if you don't tense hard (just enough to stay in the position of course),than spend more time in that position.

wynnema
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Post by wynnema »

DanBor wrote:Thanks, I understand what is muscle soreness I just didn't know that's DOMS.

I can only say from my experience: best method is isometrics with weights, but if you don't tense hard (just enough to stay in the position of course),than spend more time in that position.
yes I think Pavel advises that as well.

DanBor
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Post by DanBor »

I'm just curious: how much weight are you using? I remember I started with 16 kg, but that was way to much, my legs were constantly moving even wider apart,so I droped weight to only 8-10 kg.

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